Those TTAG readers who have followed the issue of bump stocks and banning the devices will likely recall that in mid-June the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the ban implemented during Donald Trump’s first presidency.
In the 6-3 decision, the court ruled that a bump stock does not magically turn a semi-automatic firearm into a “machine gun,” which could be regulated under the Gun Control Act.
Unlike some recent gun-rights cases before the Supreme Court, this case did not involve the Second Amendment right to bear arms but a federal law that defines a machine gun as any weapon that can fire “more than one shot,” “automatically,” and “by a single function of the trigger.”
In his majority opinion, Justice Clarence Thomas explained that each time a shooter fires a rifle, the shooter must “release pressure from the trigger and allow it to reset before re-engaging the trigger for another shot.” The bump stock, he wrote, “merely reduces the amount of time that elapses between separate ‘functions’ of the trigger” by allowing the shooter to quickly press the trigger again.
True to form, less than a week later, Democrats in the U.S. Senate were already attempting to pass legislation banning the devices again. Only strong opposition by Republicans stalled the measure, prompting gun-hating Sen. Chuck Schumer to castigate Republican senators for their lack of support.
Now, anti-gun Democrats are at it again. According to a report at wsbtv.com, federal lawmakers were back to debating the issue late last week, with lawmakers on Capitol Hill hearing from a survivor of the Las Vegas shooting, anti-gun advocates and gun-rights supporters on the issue.
At the hearing, Democrat U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin criticized the U.S. Supreme Court and the justices who struck down the ban.
“The Republican-appointed Justices concluded wrongly, in my view, that the Trump administration could not define bump stocks as machine guns under the National Firearms Act,” Durbin said. Fortunately, just because Durbin thinks that doesn’t mean it’s true.
While Senate Democrats are pushing for a bill that would make it clear that the National Firearms Act includes bump stocks, which it does not, Republican opposition is likely to doom such a measure from the start. Still, the bill has already been filed and could be considered in the upcoming 2025 session.
In the end, it is unlikely that Democrats will be able to ram through a bump stock ban, giving the clean sweep by Republicans on election day, capturing the U.S. Senate, retaining the U.S. House majority and winning the presidency. And it’s unlikely Trump would push such a ban again since that’s about the only anti-gun move he made during his first presidency.
Equally unlikely is that the Supreme Court will let such a ban stand if Democrats manage to pass one, given the court’s earlier ruling on the matter.
Republicans need to respond to this bill by filing a bill of their own that mandates a 60-day amnesty to register machine guns every calendar year. Bring them out of the shadows and get them properly documented. There are probably more undocumented machine guns in the United States then there are undocumented immigrants. Every single person that I know who has a transferable machine gun also has a couple of clones of that gun with the exact same serial number and they never keep them in the same place at the same time.
Republicans need to respond to this bill by filing a bill of their own that ends the NFA et. seq.
There, fixed it for ya.
Gman
The rationale for suggesting what I suggested is that we would be adopting the language frequently used by the Democrats and throwing it back in their face.
The one important fact about the anti gunners is that if……If they had half a brain, they’d be…..half-wits !
When I was a kid most of the adults in my circle had been in ww2 or Korea. Sometimes both. The bringbacks were something else. I doubt many of those had any paper trail at all.
I dated a young lady back in the 90s whose father served in Vietnam. we had been dating about 6 months when we went down into the basement that I had been to may times. He stood there quietly for a few seconds then said, ” I’m going to show you something but you must swear to never tell anyone. I agreed and he walked over to a large cabinet and slide it to one side. Behind that cabinet was a steel vault door. He opened the door and turned on the lights. What was inside took my breath away. Fully automatic firearms of every description as well as 3 M72 LAW and a MA-2 with cases of ammo stacked floor to ceiling. It was then that I found out he had been a member of Seal Team K-74888 in Vietnam. Unfortunately me and his daughter broke up a couple of years later and he passed away about 10 years ago. I never found out what happened to all that ordinance and I’m not real sure his daughter was even aware of it. God Rest his soul. we miss you Buzz.
I like the idea of opening the registry, it would be nice to have and machine gun options besides pre-hughes 80s relics that cost tens of thousands, or needing a SOT to either manufacturer or transfer dealer only guns or the law letter demos.
It does seem a little strange with NFA stuff, registered per weapon, if you can legally have one short barrelled rifle, but having a second isn’t unless registered. If you are safe to own one, no problem with multiples right? The alternative would be some type of license, all you can eat, but then if they pulled your license, your collection is bad, plus what if you forget to renew, how much does that cost… I don’t trust them to implement such a thing without making it even worse than the current situation. Either repeal Hughes and NFA weapons, or best to leave it as is.
Congress really doesn’t have the authority to regulate firearms. They had to take a circuitous route to doing so by doing it through their powers of Taxation and the interstate commerce clause. the interstate commerce clause was created to prevent States from implementing tariffs on other states and it wasn’t intended to give the federal government omnipotent regulatory power over every single thing that exists. Congress does have unchecked taxation power but they do not have the authority to tax a fundamental Civil Right.
They are not taxing the right, not directly, under the NFA, they are taxing the weapon itself. Since we are taxed federally for conservation, plus state and local sales tax, so it is not unconstitutional.
The tax is not on the weapon. The tax is on you for the right of taking possession of it.
For transfer the tax is not on the ‘firearm’ and is on the right (as in ‘ability’ of right to exercise of property ownership and constitutional right under the 2A) to take possession of it.
Its classed as a ‘transfer tax’ if you procure or take possession or receive it without buying.
If you build/construct/create it (by other than qualified manufacturers of firearms) then its classed as a ‘making tax’ .
They are only taxing the weapon its self (inclusive of the right to procure/posses as if transfer) in addition if you ‘make it’ then its classed as a ‘making tax’.
correction and more correctly…
Its classed as a ‘transfer tax’ if you procure or take (ownership control type) possession if you buy it or not.
You sure do know a lot of criminals………..
The whole thing is preposterous. It’s an act of physics fundamentally tied to how any small arm operates and despite our best efforts Newtons laws cannot be legislated away.
Either everyone promoting this ban is too stupid to pass high school physics or they’re actually working on yet another full gun ban foothold and believe everyone else to be too stupid to notice. Arguing over finger pulls, resets, rates of fire, etc… is all pointless masturbation. The physical action occurs no matter what and can be harnessed by anyone using any number of everyday objects or no objects at all. The fact that our alleged officials would spend so much energy arguing over legislative details that can in no way alter the physical world should be an embarrassment. Next they’ll be arguing Superman vs. Batman at taxpayer expense.
It’s like they’re trying to legislate the wheel because somebody rolled one too quickly and some idiot got scared.
If democrats, et al, can’t see/understand the difference between automatic and semi-automatic, should they succeed in getting this bill passed, they will then declare semi-automatics to be machine guns. These people lack the intelligence to understand/comprehend simple English including the words in the 2nd Amendment. They are good/bad at twisting and I am not talking about the ‘dance’.
Unfortunately there are a lot of pro-bump stock ban Republicans, from Trump, sen Rick Scott, Florida Republican leadership, obviously NRA was supporting and encouraging it like Ms. Hammer and Wayne. Even on these online forums bump stocks and machine guns seem to be treated as ammo wasters and it seems like a lot of gun owners aren’t bothered much by a ban, at least in the comments.
A decent number of states, even Republican led passed extra bump stock bans in case the federal ban was overturned, “double banned.”
I would think given the chance Trump or most Republicans would ban them again if they didn’t get too much push back, maybe as a trade for something they want.
I think bump stocks, pistol braces, as well as new machine guns and SBRs should be legal and deregulated but I don’t think that is a priority or agreed with by Republican leadership. Not on the platform, I don’t see that mentioned as a vision by prospective campaigns or platforms, usually not much other than “we won’t take your guns like Biden and Kamala!” and national reciprocity, maybe dabble in HPA but that’s about it.
I’ll speak on this. I trust republicans only a bit more than Dims. SEE:Vietnam and all the pointless mideast adventures. As well as Ukraine. Clearly Europe hasn’t stepped up with notable exceptions IE Britain.
I think DeSantis will nominate a pro-2A ally as the next senator. I was hoping Rick Scott would be appointed to the Trump admin to take him out of the senate.
The democrats don’t want to pass a bump stock ban to ban bump stocks but to re define what a machine gun is which would be pretty much anything that can potentially increase the rate of fire of a semi automatic firearm such as shorter reset, lighter trigger, etc. Buyer beware of what they will try to do.
…to redefine a semi-auto as “readily convertible”…
At the time bump stock crybabies did not understand it was either bump stocks going under the bus or include a laundry list of other items including the Franklin Binary trigs advertised on this forum. By EO POTUS DJT left the door open for a court to decide bump stocks which eventually went in the favor of Rights. Funny how those the knee jerk finger pointing crybabies demonized did not have a cow over the reversal.
Since the crybabies have a problem with being told facts the below attorney explains POTUS DJT and bump stocks. Bump stock info comes later in the video so educate yourselves…connect the h…
h ttps://youtube.com/watch?v=7QM9jCCW1V4&feature=shared
I think he goofed. Badly. Bump stocks were a nice scape goat, NRA was cool with it, Republicans didn’t want to face crowd to “do something” but here is the thing, Trump could have said sure let’s ban it… and then around when the first request for comment period and final rule were published, could have easily dropped it. The clamour to do something was gone by then, and GOA and other groups were all urging him not to do it. Could have easily said “in light of the comments and everything since proposing this, we don’t really need this” and drop it. He kept ramming it in, even taking credit for it. Not good leadership if he didn’t believe in it to punt it to courts to sort out over years and millions of dollars, lost jobs, business impact etc.
And it provided cover for Biden for his unlawful EOs.
Still arguing.
What is what is not.
The Second Amendment does not allow a government to control what weapons a United States citizen can possess.
Our daddies gave them the inch they needed with the NFA out of ignorance and trust.
What Constitutional Rights are our children or great grandchildren going to be allowed to have?
The “gun community” has never ever supported machine gun ownership for the civilian population. They never supported anyone having “a range toy.”
Which tells me they don’t believe you can have fun, and be responsible with guns at the same time.
Never forget. Nancy Pelosi ordered machine guns to be used, to defend the capital against peaceful protesters. She didn’t like.
And the “gun community” is comfortable with only the government having machine guns.
“Nancy Pelosi ordered machine guns to be used, to defend the capital against peaceful protesters“
That’s one I hadn’t heard.
I thought you guys were saying that Nancy Pelosi blocked the military from responding to the insurrection.
Now you’re saying she ordered them to use automatic weapons?
I believe he’s referring to Jan 7th, when Democrats discovered that physical barriers and a heavy security presence actually work. Or perhaps they’ve known all along which is why they freak out over border barriers and law enforcement officers. They love their barriers and security personnel to protect themselves though.
So Nancy should’ve ordered the National Guard in on January 6, but she was wrong to order the National Guard in on January 7?
I didn’t realize a member of the House of Representatives had control of the National Guard, I thought only the president could activate the national guard?
But in any case, it’s time to celebrate Donald Trump nominating another billionaire to his government:
“President-elect Donald Trump has offered the Treasury secretary position to billionaire Scott Bessent, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
Bessent, 62, advised Trump on economic policy on the campaign trail and is the founder of hedge fund Key Square Capital Management.”
And the best part, he got his start with George Soros:
“Before that, he was the chief investment officer at Soros Fund Management, a hedge fund started by Democratic megadonor George Soros”
Interesting choice by Donald…
A report on the riot, authored by House Republicans in 2022, found that Democratic leadership had concerns over the “optics” of having National Guard troops present at the Capitol in the aftermath of the summer 2020 Black Lives Matter protests.
Then, after Jan 6, they suddenly discovered that they were thrilled with the optics of 25,000 troops, fencing, and barbed wire. Check the link for photos. Why is Pelosi so prominent in those photos?
h ttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/national-guard-capitol-hill/
“A report on the riot, authored by House Republicans… “
You mean the house Republicans that were working to block the certification of the election?
And regardless of the ‘optics’ Nancy Pelosi had no authority to either call out the National Guard or send them home. Only the president has the executive authority to activate the National Guard.
It was President Donald Trump‘s duty to activate the national guard, but all he did was watch the violent insurrection in the United States Capitol for three hours and was derelict in his duty to respond and protect the capital.
He didn’t do shit as the violent insurrectionists were attacking police officers, parading with the confederate flag through the halls of the United States Capitol and smearing shit on the walls.
Convicted of 34 felonies. Led a violent insurrection. Yet the American people felt that he was a better president than harris would be.
Have you ever stopped, just for a second, to consider why, miner?
Fascinating how you know all this but still you work to give just that much more to the gop.
TDS really has driven you over the edge.
“Have you ever stopped, just for a second, to consider why, miner?“
Yep, the triumph of propaganda. When the world’s richest man buys Twitter and uses it to promote your campaign, it’s kind of hard to work against that by campaigning honorably.
The 34 convictions proves that, in a court of law where testimony is sworn and evidence examined, he was convicted of multiple felonies.
Twitter and social media don’t mean shit when you’re standing before the judge, only facts matter. And on the facts and testimony, Donald Trump was convicted of 34 felonies by a jury selected by his own attorneys with Trump present in the courtroom.
He’s a convicted felon.
End of story.
Somewhere in West Virginia, in a cold, dark room… Miner, with his knees drawn to his chest, is rocking back and forth repeating, “convicted felon, insurrectionist, Nazi, convicted felon, insurrectionist, Nazi, convicted felon, insurrectionist, Nazi…”
Fake felonies they are too chicken shit to sentence for opinion discarded.
Never forget they said Biden was too senile to be tried for the crimes he committed. Unlike Trump, Biden wasn’t the POTUS when he took classified material. In other words, it was a REAL crime, unlike what they were trying to pin on Trump. It’s almost like these were get Trump operations by Democrats. They’re willing to tear the country apart for power.
“Threat to democracy” was the number one issue for Democrats this election. Yet, they tried their best to prosecute, bankrupt, and jail for life their political opponent. Don’t forget how the Dems tried to keep him off the ballot in various ways. That is literally a threat to democracy. Dem voters are so confused. Propaganda works.
“Pelosi had no authority”
You don’t understand how things work. The person in charge of security is the Sergeant-at-Arms. Guess who that person answered to? Speaker Pelosi. And Trump did suggest Guard troops there ahead of time. (Why wasn’t that reported until much later?) Now why would an “insurrectionist” want extra security? Hmm. It’s almost like they’re lying to you. Again. And you believe it because you want to believe it. Again. Explain to us again how the Russia Hoax was real. That never gets old. If only Mueller’s dream team of top Democrat lawyers had you…
The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress.
Sund told the Post that House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving was concerned with the “optics” of declaring an emergency ahead of the protests and rejected a National Guard presence.
Sund says he requested assistance six times ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol. Each of those requests was denied or delayed, he says.
Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser also wanted a light police presence at the Capitol. She reportedly wanted to avoid a similar scenario as last summer, when federal forces responded to demonstrators opposed to police abuses who assembled near the White House.
Post Jan 6, they suddenly decided that they like the optics of a war zone. Look at the pictures in the link. Look how proud Pelosi looks.
Interesting how you ignore the reality of the timeline:
“concerned with the “optics” of declaring an emergency ahead of the protests“
The operative phrase is ‘ahead of the protest’.
The three hours when Trump sat on his thumb and did nothing is the question, ahead of the protest means nothing because no one knew how bad it was going to be.
But Donald Trump doesn’t have that explanation, he sat and watched from the White House dining room as his supporters trashed the Capitol and interrupted the certification of the election as mandated by the constitution.
Trump has no excuse, he was clearly derelict in his duty to protect the Capitol by using his sole authority to call out the National Guard.
As 40 ounce points out:
“The president can ‘mobilize’ the national guard by federalizing them under Title 10 and call them into federal service under federal authority“
Trump failed to do so, through incompetence or conspiracy, either way he’s a failure.
I’m not ignoring anything. You’re ignoring two things that I already mentioned: 1) someone planning an “insurrection” wouldn’t request extra security ahead of time, and 2) “Sund says he requested assistance six times ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol. Each of those requests was denied or delayed, he says.”
Keep it up desperate clinger. You’re desperately clinging to the insurrection narrative after the country has moved on, just like you were still clinging to the Russia Hoax narrative as recently as this year. Why don’t you focus on making America great instead of clinging to desperate fantasies?
There was no insurrection on Jan 6th no matter how hard the dems and left wingers and Miner49er cling to that or keep repeating it.
18 U.S. Code § 2383 – Rebellion or insurrection
“Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”
According to Bidens DOJ > as of 6 Nov 2024 – the Biden DOJ has not charged one person under 18 U.S. Code § 2383 for ‘insurrection’ or ‘rebellion’. Ya would think if it was ‘insurrection’ or ‘rebellion’ the Biden DOJ, as left wing and dem infected and politicized and weaponized as the Biden admin is and all the dems in congress screaming ‘insurrection’ the DOJ would have charged someone with insurrection.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/46-months-jan-6-attack-us-capitol
Miner49er, you have been lying all this time in claiming it was an ‘insurrection’. You have been doing the typical left-wing emotional delusion thing of ‘confirmation bias’ reading into it what you wanted it to be and ignoring the contextual logic application of the reality of the law that there was no ‘insurrection’.
(this is a repost with a slight modification to avoid moderation, hopefully. The original went to moderation and not appeared.)
There was no insur – rection on Jan 6th no matter how hard the dems and left wingers and Miner49er cling to that or keep repeating it.
18 U.S. Code § 2383 – Rebellion or insur – rection
“Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insur -rection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”
According to Bidens DOJ > as of 6 Nov 2024 – the Biden DOJ has not charged one person under 18 U.S. Code § 2383 for ‘insur -rection’ or ‘rebellion’. Ya would think if it was ‘insur -rection’ or ‘rebellion’ the Biden DOJ, as left wing and dem infected and politicized and weaponized as the Biden admin is and all the dems in congress screaming ‘insur – rection’ the DOJ would have charged someone with insurrection.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/46-months-jan-6-attack-us-capitol
Miner49er, you have been lying all this time in claiming it was an ‘insur -rection’. You have been doing the typical left-wing emotional delusion thing of ‘confirmation bias’ reading into it what you wanted it to be and ignoring the contextual logic application of the reality of the law that there was no ‘insur -rection’.
“Trump has no excuse, he was clearly derelict in his duty to protect the Capitol by using his sole authority to call out the National Guard.”
“Trump failed to do so, through incompetence or conspiracy, either way he’s a failure.”
Both false.
Don’t use what I posted as the justification for your false. It isn’t.
Federalizing the DCNG was the wrong move here, and Trump could not have federalized the DCNG for this purpose without secdef approval and the secdef could not legally or constitutionally approve such federalization of the DCNG for this purpose.
The DCNG is unique, the only NG in the country to be so. This is because of them being the only only U.S. military force empowered to carry out federal functions in the district. Had Trump been able to federalize them to quell what was a localized riot (I explained why it was not an insurrection in another post but that’s in moderation and has not appeared yet) it would have been a violation of the The Posse Comitatus Act which forbids the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies and laws. In other words it would have been a crime and any actions that then federalized DCNG took would have been in the furtherance of a crime. Secdef can not approve the DCNG being federalized to quell a localized riot as its a “domestic policies and laws” issue. This is the reason federal troops are not sent in to quell localized riots – the BLM riots in Minneapolis were much larger scale.
Trump acted correctly and was not “derelict in his duty to protect the Capitol”.
First, it was the capital building and not “the Capital”. The president has no such duty to protect the capital building. That’s a matter for capital police and when activated the DCNG.
Second, the president does not have “sole authority to call out” the DCNG and fcederalizing other out of DC national guard to quell a localized riot would have been a wrong and illegal and unconstitutional move at the time.
Trump acted correctly within law and constitutionally. He requested DCNG, secdef refused. If it had spread to the whole area of DC then it would have been a different matter and Trump could have federalized then and the secdef would have most likely approved it. But this was a localized riot focused on one building, the use of federal troops would have been the wrong move here and it probably would have put us in an actual shooting civil war had federal troops been used to quell this localized riot.
“Only the president has the executive authority to activate the National Guard.”
100% false
There is no such presidential executive authority to activate the National Guard.
The president doesn’t actually ‘activate’ the national guard nor can the president do so.
The president can ‘mobilize’ the national guard by federalizing them under Title 10 and call them into federal service under federal authority, but the president doesn’t ‘activate’ the national guard and can’t. Only the state governor can actually activate their national guard, even if the president federalizes them and calls them into federal service it still takes the governor to activate their national guard to respond to being federalized. Plus, without being called into federal service the governor can still activate their own national guard, even if federal government objects, to serve for a purpose within the governors jurisdiction or join with other national guard units from other states.
“It was President Donald Trump‘s duty to activate the national guard”
100% False. The president has not such duty to activate the national guard and can’t. I described above.
However, despite the previous ‘fact checks’ claiming President Trump did not call for national guard – it was discovered during the house hearings from evidence the democrats tried to hide and from testimony that Trump did indeed call for national guard to be deployed before Jan 6th because large crowds were expected on Jan 6th and later on inauguration day (this is common, the admin usually calls for some amount of national guard to augment police for crowd control if large crowds are to be expected, sometimes its granted and the troops are kept out of sight unless needed and sometimes its not granted).
While Trump never formally requested 10,000 National Guard troops, then-acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller stated that Trump brought up the figure in conversation on the night before Jan. 6. However, Trump had also already requested national guard be deployed.
and… also discovered during the house hearings, on Jan 6th when things started happening Trump again requested national guard be deployed.
for the DC National Guard, they are under control of the Sec of Defense. DC isn’t a state so doesn’t have a governor.
so the secdef eventually did activate the DCNG after consultation with Pence and not Trump.
why the secdef did not activate them sooner, despite requests to do so, is a mystery.
no one but the secdef could activate the DCNG.
“for the DC National Guard, they are under control of the Sec of Defense“
At last you are doing some factual research, bravo!
“no one but the secdef could activate the DCNG“
Bullshit, he has a boss.
The “secretary of defense” you say, who is his boss… Nancy Pelosi or the President of the United States?
How things have changed…
A great American president once had a sign on his desk, ‘The Buck Stops Here’, Harry Truman did not shirk his responsibility.
But Donald Trump says “I’m responsible for nothing”, it’s not my fault, it’s everybody else’s… “.
Sad.
“The ‘secretary of defense’ you say, who is his boss… Nancy Pelosi or the President of the United States?”
Neither, when it comes to the DCNG.
When it comes to controlling activation of the the DCNG, the “secretary of defense” is the boss and doesn’t answer to the president. In that aspect of activating the DCNG they are performing the role as a governor in a state would.
“How things have changed”
Nothing has changed in this respect since 26 January 1949 when President Harry Truman, a democrat, issued executive order 10030 making it so and thus the secdef is the boss of the DCNG.
And as it pertains to the DCNG, in operations; In the EO …The Army secretary was directed to act in all matters pertaining to the ground component, and the Air Force secretary was directed to act in all matters pertaining to the air component.
The DCNG (as a National Guard component) is the only U.S. military force empowered to carry out federal functions in the district (without being under Title 10 orders). They just need to be activated to do so.
Even the president has to send a request to the secdef to request the DCNG be activated and deployed, just like he has to do to a state governor asking they activate their NG units. In this case the secdef refused the request from both Trump and then later Pelosi, just like the governor of a state can, then delayed and later finally activated the DCNG.
The buck stopped at the secdef.
and to add… I do factual research all the time. Because I don’t bother to spoon feed you information with links for everything doesn’t mean I don’t do factual research.
And had you done factual research instead of spewing out yet another round of your mental illness TDS and listening to the radical left wing BS rattling around in your head you would have discovered the information about the national guard.
“the “secretary of defense” is the boss and doesn’t answer to the president“
Really.
“Trump ‘Terminates’ Secretary Of Defense Mark Esper
NOVEMBER 9, 20202:01 PM ET
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper testifies during a House Armed Services Committee hearing on July 9 in Washington, D.C.
Greg Nash/Pool/Getty Images
Defense Secretary Mark Esper has been “terminated,” President Trump wrote in a tweet, and will be replaced by Christopher C. Miller, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center.
“Chris will do a GREAT job,” Trump tweeted shortly after noon. “Mark Esper has been terminated. I would like to thank him for his service.”
The cabinet secretaries serve at the Will and pleasure of the President, they are his subordinates in the executive branch.
As you point out, Donald Trump‘s executive branch failed to react to the assault on the United States Capitol by Donald Trump’s supporters, summoned by him… “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th, Be there, will be wild!”
I posted “the “secretary of defense” is the boss and doesn’t answer to the president“
You replied “Really” and launch into a screed completely out of context with what I really posted which you cherry picked ignoring the context and the rest of it.
That makes you a liar, again.
Take your mental illness TDS and rants elsewhere. Your side lost the election for many reasons, but one of them was because your side has so obviously demonstrated this mental illness.
Miner49er
“I thought only the president could activate the national guard?”
Well, I thought only the President had access to machine guns? Or to Military grade weapons.
But apparently, the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, does have access to military grade weapons for security purposes.
How does that happen?
to miner49er
From February 2021
My Central New Jersey
By Carl Asszony
“Acting Deputy Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Ken Cuccinelli reported that Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi wanted to add more lethal force to that already massive military presence, by requesting crew- manned machine gun emplacements.”
“What was Pelosi thinking when she asked for machine guns to be used against any potential rioters?”
Now can you answer that reporter’s question???
It’s a fact Chris more people have been killed by government employees then anyone else and if they can’t get the military to do it they make up some kind of bureau that nobody wanted for to do it.
I’m waiting to see what this White House Gun Violence Prevention thing Joe Biden set up is all about.
IMO if Trump doesn’t disband it I’ll have my doubts on where he really stands.
Most gun ranges don’t allow full auto weapons at their facility. Because the insurance is too expensive.
In ten minutes, Stephen Paddox fired more than 1,000 rounds, killing 60 people and wounding at least 413.
This was only possible because he used bump stocks.
People drown in water. Let’s ban water.
You fascists are so low intellect.
But regardless jwm, he would’ve never achieved that rate of fire without the use of bump stocks.
Sadly, the lack of accurate fire using bump stocks was not an issue in the target rich environment of the outdoor concert.
Therefore, some law or regulation?
Without the bump stocks his rate of fire may have been slower yet he very well may have achieved more hits with that slower rate. The crowd wasn’t going anywhere in a hurry. Bumpstocks may have saved lives.
Which is besides the point. In a free society I cannot be punished for a crime I was not involved with. What crime did I commit to have bumpstocks denied to me?
There is a reason I call you a fascist, miner. Because in truth you are a fascist.
“he very well may have achieved more hits with that slower rate… Bumpstocks may have saved lives.”
From the ridiculous to the absurd.
Good thing the wounded and the loved ones of those killed in Las Vegas can’t hear your unhinged bullshit.
By the way, gas today in West Virginia is $2.48 a gallon and eggs $3.97/doz, let’s see where we are after the inauguration, Y’all promised prices will come down so we’ll see how this all goes in a couple months.
Sam’s Club
1100 Grand Central Ave
Vienna, WV
1 (304) 295-0280
Station Prices
Regular
$2.48
Walmart in Charleston has eggs at $3.97 a dozen today.
Tell me you never shot any form of select fire or simulation thereof without telling me.
I’m pretty sure Miner served in the military.
I’m pretty sure miner is the MU professor that claims because he was an officer in the military he knows that only soldiers should have ‘assault weapons’.
TTAG reprinted one of his screeds as a post here.
@Miner If your measure of success is gas prices, then Trump has already won, and Biden has already lost by comparing Trump’s previous term with Biden’s current one.
“But regardless jwm, he would’ve never achieved that rate of fire without the use of bump stocks.”
false
It was possible because he converted semiautos to full auto the correct way instead of with some hokey gimmick accessory.
“he converted semiautos to full auto the correct way“
Really? That was not my understanding, you have a source document or citation regarding this?
I have seen the weapons with my own eyes and have held them in my own hands. Who do you think I work for?
With all due respect, I doubt your claim.
There was a smorgasbord of agencies involved, but the final report is out and it clearly indicates these were civilian available non-NFA firearms purchased from retail establishments.
And I believe a total of 13 weapons equipped with bump stocks were recovered, the final report has photos.
It’s a rather comprehensive report, I found the forensic analysis of his laptops, including browser artifacts, Google and Bing searches, quite interesting. (page 108)
h ttps://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/read-the-final-report-from-las-vegas-police-on-the-oct-1-shooting/amp/
‘Big Bad Bill is Sweet Willian Now… “
sooo, you didn’t read the report AND understand it.
hint: go through the weapons again. although there were rifles with bump stocks, there were also rifles without bump stocks…. end of hint.
“civilian available non-NFA”
and?
it doesn’t mean he had not converted some of the rifles found in the room and used those converted, and there were rifles in the room without bump stocks.
Out of the box AKs and FALs can shoot faster than bumpstocked ARs, their FCG design is “superior”.
First time I fired my Valmet M62 at the range, people thought I had a machine gun, had to show RO it was not. Don’t do rapid fire anymore….it’s very bad if you get a squib.
You keep crying about squibs but outside of Russian steel case never saw one and fired thousands through various belt feds so not sure what you are so afraid of.
Squib loads are more common in hand loaded ammo, but no manufacturing process is perfect:
“GunnSmokeer
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I don’t remember how to “embed” a video, so I’ll post the web address but not as a link.
Check out this video of a guy shooting a full auto M16 at a civilian outdoor gun range.
He has some sort of malfunction. The gun stops shooting.
The checks it, ejects either a round or an empty case (I can’t tell- the video is 20 years old VHS tape), and then tries to resume firing.
KA-BOOM !! His M16 gets immediately disassembled, and he’s left holding the lower in one hand and what’s left of the barreled upper in the other hand. It doesn’t look like he was seriously hurt though.
The comments under the video at Military.com say that he had a squib load that lodged a bullet in his barrel, and when he chambered and new round and fired it with the plugged barrel, that’s what caused this.
http://www.military.com {FWD slash} video/guns/rifles {another FWD slash}m16a1-explodes-in-guys-hand/1711073366001
“Equally unlikely is that the Supreme Court will let such a ban stand if Democrats manage to pass one, given the court’s earlier ruling on the matter.”
This is just plain wrong.
SCOTUS ruled that the NFA does not CURRENTLY address bump stocks, because bump stocks do not fall under the definition of a “machine gun.” If Congress modifies the NFA or passes another law specifically addressing bump stocks, there is no connection between such new legislation and that SCOTUS ruling.
Any future ruling would have to be based on some other criteria, such as Bruen, etc, and would almost certainly have to include a finding on the NFA’s ban on machine guns as well. That is a much higher bar, and not at all certain how it would turn out.
If you don’t support Machine gun ownership in the general law abiding public? And you don’t support the open carry of Arms which is an expression of 1st amendment free speech?
Then you really don’t support Liberty. And you have never supported the Bill Of Rights.
All you have ever needed is legal butt sex and drugs. You are just a comfortable slave.
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